SYW260 – Inspired by the Community

[00:01:26] Jennifer Wilson: Welcome to Scrapbook Your Way, the show that explores the breadth of ways to be a memory keeper today. I’m your host, Jennifer Wilson, owner of Simple Scrapper and author of The New Rules of Scrapbooking. This is episode 260. In this episode I’m chatting with Stephanie Daubek about her favorite crafty supplies, the benefits of journaling for mental health, and how the online creative community has kept her inspired.

[00:01:55] Jennifer Wilson: Hey, Stephanie, welcome to Scrapbook Your Way.

[00:01:57] Stephanie Daubek: Thank you so much for having me. I'm so honored to be here.

[00:02:00] Jennifer Wilson: Yes. I'm so looking forward to our conversation and getting to know you better, but can you start by sharing a little bit about yourself?

[00:02:07] Stephanie Daubek: Sure. So my name is Stephanie Daubeck. I live in Northwest Indiana. So really close to the Illinois state line, about an hour outside of Chicago. I am married and have three awesome step kids. One of which is with us at home full time. He's a sophomore in high school. And then, um, we have five birds and a dog. And sometimes our house sounds very much like Wild Kingdom.

[00:02:35] Jennifer Wilson: I have, uh, two adult step sons myself, so I definitely identify with the blended family.

[00:02:41] Stephanie Daubek: Yeah, for sure. It's a, it's a wild ride, but it's so worth it.

[00:02:46] Jennifer Wilson: Yes. Yes. It's like very, it's, I didn't mean to go down this path, but it's so rewarding in ways that I never thought possible.

[00:02:54] Stephanie Daubek: It really is. It really is.

[00:02:56] Jennifer Wilson: Yeah. Yeah. So Stephanie, what is exciting you right now, both inside of scrapbooking and outside of it?

[00:03:02] Stephanie Daubek: So, in terms of scrapbooking right now, I feel like, um, at the time we're recording this, we're, um, just about a week out from starting Week in the Life, at least when Ali Edwards does it. And that is one of my favorite annual projects, so I'm really super excited about that, I just went through all of my supplies last night. And, um, initially I was, you know, I'm going in kind of lukewarm, but I'm like, Oh, I have so much cute stuff.

[00:03:24] Stephanie Daubek: And then you just get really excited to start a project when you want to play with your supplies. Um, and in terms of outside of scrapbooking, uh, I'm really loving the weather right now in the Midwest. Um, cause it's just, you know, it's always a surprise. But just the changing of the seasons, everything's really green where, you know, we've had a lot of rain, but I'm looking forward to, you know, things are starting to bloom. And you know, all the, all the fun things that come with the changing of the season.

[00:03:52] Jennifer Wilson: Yes, yes. I think we finally shifted into, it's going to actually be a little bit warmer consistently now rather than the crazy up and down.

[00:04:01] Stephanie Daubek: Right.

[00:04:03] Jennifer Wilson: No, I am looking forward to Week In The Life as well. This is actually the first year that I've bought products, and I'm doing an album. I have taken photos and done documentation many times in various different ways. Trending towards like digital hybrid, but I've never actually bought any of Ali's Week in the Life products. Which is so funny because I buy all the other things. Um, so I don't have a stash that I'm working from. I just have a box over here that I'm going to dive into.

[00:04:31] Stephanie Daubek: Yeah. And to be fair, I think even if you don't have specific Week in the Life, products. I feel like a lot of them are so easily, you know, transferable to other projects, everyday life documenting. So I pulled from a lot of my other things as well. In terms of, you know, my stash of just having, fun embellishments I wanted to play with that are good for documenting the everyday. And just kind of the routines and things that, it's funny because we feel like I know from doing this project, I'm trying to remember,

[00:04:58] Stephanie Daubek: I think the first year I did it was 2018. Which doesn't feel that long ago, but it was. It was and it wasn't. Um, and just how different our routines are. And, um, Yeah, it's just, it's really fun.

[00:05:12] Jennifer Wilson: That's a good point in terms of the the, the, oh gosh, brain must have needed to drink more coffee this morning. That you don't need specific products. I think it was 2014 and I don't know exactly what year. I wrote a blog post about how to put together like a kit just from your stash. And I think, 'cause that was definitely a Project Life heyday. That there were so many everyday life, uh, products coming out, particularly ones with days of the week on them that I felt like, oh, I have plenty of things, to do this project.

[00:05:46] Stephanie Daubek: Yeah, that definitely was. I feel like that was, that was right when I got into it as well. As they were just like in scrapbooking in general of 2013, 2014. Of like, Oh, the whole search of Project Life products. And when they were all, you know, in like a lot of the mainstream stores, like Michaels and Hobby Lobby and JoAnn. Where they had the albums and the kits and everything to, to get you started.

[00:06:09] Jennifer Wilson: Yes. So we also like to ask our guests about their bucket list. So do you have a memory keeping story that you really want to tell that you haven't done yet?

[00:06:22] Stephanie Daubek: Um, so to, to just be vulnerable right off the bat. Um, my mom passed away almost 10 years ago. And I've never, um, really documented it. And, you know, I got married right before she passed away just a few months before she passed away. And I really would love for my kids to know her better. And, um, know her stories more.

[00:06:42] Stephanie Daubek: And so that's definitely something that's on my list. And, um, just wanting to document her life. Cause she wasn't, um, she wasn't really a photo taker, wasn't a journaler. But she, you know, definitely there's some stories that I just really want to get told from her perspective, or I guess from my perspective in terms of, of her story.

[00:07:02] Jennifer Wilson: Yes. Yes. If we think about it, it's 2024 so that was 2014. And so I imagine when you got into scrapbooking, you weren't. You weren't ready to tell that story.

[00:07:14] Stephanie Daubek: Definitely. I mean, I think that certainly with the passage of time, certain things do get easier. They're less raw, emotionally raw and vulnerable. Um, so I think I definitely journal about it at the time. But I wasn't, you know, going to necessarily want to blast that on the internet, on the internet and be like, Hey, here are all my innermost feelings. Um, but yeah, I definitely am at a point now where emotionally it's, I wanted to get that story told. And, and, it's not, um, you know, it's not, it's not painful. It's, it's, it's a celebratory thing.

[00:07:49] Jennifer Wilson: Yes. Yes. Well, I can't wait to see what you do with that. I'm sure it's going to be beautiful.

[00:07:55] Stephanie Daubek: Thank you.

[00:07:56] Jennifer Wilson: So yeah, let's dive into hearing more about you and your perspectives. Um, from seeing your Instagram posts over the years, I get the sense that the playful experience is, is such a huge part of why you craft in various ways. Would you say that's accurate?

[00:08:13] Stephanie Daubek: Oh yeah. A hundred percent. I feel like that's something I say all the time is if I'm stressed while I'm crafting, I'm doing it wrong. I just want it to be fun and enjoyable and very much like the creative outlet that it is and that it's supposed to be. I know for me, I get stressed with deadlines and feeling like I'm not quote unquote caught up. I don't feel like most people can ever really be caught up. We're just constantly living and having more stories to tell. And, so I guess just trying to like, over the last few years, I've really tried to disconnect that from the stress of a project or the stress of the deadline. And just do it for fun. And just do it because it's something that I love. And I mean, obviously the fact that I have this, you know, you know, wall of albums now that my kids can flip through or my family can flip through. And I always, you know, have those things documented as icing on the cake. But ultimately, you know, it's, it's something we do for us. And I think if we kind of remove that, um, I guess outside expectation, it's so much more fun.

[00:09:21] Jennifer Wilson: It's so interesting how we can, uh, take the fun out of so many things. And I think part of that is just, um, growing up, becoming an adult, learning the realities of the world. But I think trying to embrace that perspective is, is so important. And even acknowledging that, yes, sometimes it feels hard. Like, I don't want to have fun right now, but even though you know, you will feel good on the other side of it.

[00:09:48] Stephanie Daubek: Yeah. And definitely when you, especially I do a lot of projects that have a beginning and an end. And when you get to the end, a lot of times you're like, okay, I'm, I'm ready to be done, but then I'm always glad I did it. You know, it's, yeah.

[00:10:00] Jennifer Wilson: So I'd love to hear more about your journey as a crafter. Have you been consistently playing with all the fun things since your childhood? Because I'm just assuming that you also liked stickers as a child.

[00:10:11] Stephanie Daubek: Oh, for sure. Um.

[00:10:13] Jennifer Wilson: Or was there a trigger that kind of like brought you back? Um, you know, you mentioned in that 2013 2014 time, timeframe.

[00:10:20] Stephanie Daubek: Yeah, so growing up in the 80s and 90s you know, stickers were everywhere and I loved collecting them as a kid. Um, I had a lot of Mrs. Grossman's and it was definitely, you know, the kind of Lisa Frank heyday of, uh, when I was in elementary school, middle school of, you know, all of that. Um, fun, fluorescent awesomeness. Um, so yeah, I definitely had it, but we moved a lot when I was growing up for my dad's job.

[00:10:45] Stephanie Daubek: And so a lot of that kind of got lost along the way. So, you know, but it was always, I always loved to find, cause it was just something that I could easily acquire, you know, you could easily go to the store and find stickers and find fun stationary and write, you know, um, things. And I was always in, I was always a journaler and I was always a photo taker. And, you know, that was back in the, the olden days of film. So I was always the one at family functions or in my group of friends that had my camera on me all the time. And so obviously scrapbooking is something that just so beautifully marries those two things together of photo taking and journaling.

[00:11:20] Stephanie Daubek: And so, um, when, after I got married and, you know, going through all the things of, of becoming a parent and wanting to connect with my stepkids and wanting to, you know, have an emotional, creative outlet. Um, that's actually when I found Ali Edwards and I, loved that she also had a blended family. Um, there were, you know, there's a lot of things that at least in the beginning of, of my relationship with them. Where, you know, you really have to take it slow and just have, let time, um, and experience kind of do some of that connecting.

[00:12:00] Stephanie Daubek: It's not something where if you have a biological child, you're, that connection is from the very instant they're born. Um, so it was this kind of beautiful, slow evolution of things that I wanted to say to them. And also they were younger. So things I wanted to say to them, but maybe couldn't yet, you know, fully express that or fully articulate that to where they would understand. Um, and so, yeah, it was just this awesome way to kind of have my own little, my own little time. Um, because it does feel like kind of sometimes you're thrown into the deep end of the pool and you just have to figure it out in terms of, at least for me, in terms of parenting. And, um, cause I had, you know, never been married before.

[00:12:46] Stephanie Daubek: So I was, and I was married with three kids at home half of the time. And I was like, Oh, okay, this is new, I've got to figure out how to navigate it. So that was very much my, my, uh, creative solace. Of just going into my little corner of the lower level of our house and, and journaling and printing photos and combining it all with really fun, cute scrapbooking products.

[00:13:11] Jennifer Wilson: That sounds all too familiar, for sure. Yeah, it was, we got married in, like, in, uh, September 2008, and it was, like, November of 2008 when I'm like, I found, Two Peas in a Bucket and their digital.

[00:13:25] Stephanie Daubek: Yeah.

[00:13:26] Jennifer Wilson: Stuff because I was hiding out in the bedroom in my chair in the corner because I was jumped into this world with two teenage boys in a small house and a big dog, which I'd also never had a dog before. So it was me and my cat in the corner with my laptop learning about scrapbooking. So, yeah, that feels all too familiar for sure. So, Stephanie, can you give us a rundown of the types of crafty activities you might touch in a week or a month, depending on kind of how often you touch things?

[00:13:59] Stephanie Daubek: So for me, my kind of weekly non-negotiables are journaling. For a few years I used an Archer and Olive notebook or planner. And then now I'm using a Hobonichi for the first time ever. Which is so fun. Um, and so I like to journal and print photos and sticker in there and that way all of, even if I, cause a lot of times I don't scrapbook in real time, a lot of times I can refer back to it to remember what happened on what day. Um, and then I love the BFF Sticker Club's Year of Stickers where you kind of sticker your day each, each day. And then they have weekly challenges. And so I love using that to kind of document and represent my day and its sticker form. Um, and then. It just depends on whatever, you know, I, I'm, I'm very much a mini album person.

[00:14:45] Stephanie Daubek: I kind of, I really wanted to be like a Project Life person so badly. But for me, it just wasn't maintainable. Um, especially for a lot of years of my life. I feel like maybe now I could. But, um, I just love doing, Week In The life. I love doing December Daily. And, um, different mini albums if we took a trip or if we had, you know, a day trip or a road trip or a long weekend somewhere. Um, so those are the extra projects that I'm, you know, touching. If, if I had, you know, in addition to the two kind of mainstays of making sure that my, my days are documented in a journal. And then just playing with stickers because it's fun.

[00:15:24] Jennifer Wilson: As you've experimented with different projects and products over the years, what have you figured out really works the best for you?

[00:15:31] Stephanie Daubek: Um, I feel like mini albums are really kind of my sweet spot. Just because they're not, there's less pressure in terms of maintaining something, um, ongoing, an ongoing project. Although I do like, you know, I still have some scrapbooks that, um, I, I add to, you know, for like our family stories that just kind of are ongoing. But mostly I feel like my sweet spot is in addition to kind of daily journaling. Is, um, doing mini albums throughout the year. And I just think they're really fun. It's, it's less pressure. Sometimes they're bigger, sometimes they're smaller. Um, but something kind of outside of big 12 by 12 album. Where I can just document a small piece of the year and then, you know, have several of those to represent the year.

[00:16:26] Jennifer Wilson: No, it's, yeah, I love having a mix of different approaches so you can feel like you're giving everything a fair shake, but that also includes not just your memories, but the way you want to creatively show up. Because I think there are very few of us that can just do one thing over and over and be completely satisfied with it.

[00:16:46] Stephanie Daubek: Totally. And yeah, and sometimes you just change. I mean, even the way that I've done mini albums has varied over the past, you know, 10 years of, of just creating different things. It's, it's really interesting to see how my style has evolved. And initially, you know, when, when I first got into scrapbooking, I was buying all these things and I was like, Ooh, that, you know, clearly was not my style. But I saw a lot of other people using it and I was like, okay, maybe, you know, so now I feel like I kind of hopefully have it more honed in. I know, um, I try to be more mindful with purchasing. Because I think sometimes because decision fatigue is very real and I get really overwhelmed sometimes in terms of starting a project because there's just too many options. So I try to try to be more mindful about that.

[00:17:31] Jennifer Wilson: Yes, for sure. So this is going into a more sensitive topic here, but you've been open about managing anxiety and depression. Um, and so first off before we talk about sharing that and how we document that, I'm just want to know, how are you these days?

[00:17:47] Stephanie Daubek: I'm doing really well. Thank you for asking that. Um, I, I really, um, I just always wanted to be really honest and open about that. Not, you know, without, I think you can be personal without being intimate and sharing, you

[00:18:04] Stephanie Daubek: know, too many details. Um, and for me, that's such a big piece of who I am as a person. I've, I've, uh, I was diagnosed with anxiety and depression when I was 10. And so I've lived with it for so long and managed it, you know, for, um, and in different ways. And so, uh, a few years ago, I, I was so excited because I got to be a part of Nelly and Clem's design team. And she was one of the first designers that I saw that was really openly designing products that were talking about mental health. And so, um, actually my very first project for her design team was this little mini album that I made out of, I think it was a Doodlebug chip board album. And just talking about, here are the things that really helped me with mental health. It's not, you know, still, still real. There's still days that are hard. There's still days that are good. But it was just a very, it was a fun way to document something that I think, I appreciate when it's talked about more , and talked about openly.

[00:19:06] Jennifer Wilson: Well, yeah, I think, especially as someone who has lived with this for so long, you've kind of experienced the evolution of, uh, from very closed, uh, closed minded. I'm not sure there's quite the right word, but closed lips about it, to let's have a real dialogue so that we can destigmatize and, uh, encourage others to get help that they need.

[00:19:29] Stephanie Daubek: Oh, definitely. Yeah. And I, I really love that it's so much more talked about now. I mean, I think there are just so many more resources now. When I was younger, I remember, you know, it was, it was very, very different. And it wasn't that you're right. It was, it was closed lipped. It wasn't, uh, necessarily taboo to talk about it. But, um, I think maybe it was just less understanding. Um, in terms of, you know, how could you be depressed when everything's really good on the surface, you know.

[00:20:02] Jennifer Wilson: Yes. Yes, yes, for sure. So I'm curious. Um, What is the role of crafting for you in feeling good and staying mentally healthy?

[00:20:12] Stephanie Daubek: For me, just being someone who is very much a verbal processor or, you know, whether that's writing it or talking about it. So for me, journaling is a pretty integral piece of feeling good mentally. You know, Ali Edwards has said that scrapbooking is how she makes sense of her life. That so resonates with me. Because there are some pieces where even at the time when you're documenting certain stories and you maybe don't see the big picture, then it's just kind of awe inspiring to step back years later and see how things have changed and shifted for the better.

[00:20:47] Stephanie Daubek: And, um, you know, how you got, got through something. I think also that's another piece of it. Is that you can, you know, for me, I look back and I think, you know, if I'm going through something that's more difficult or if I'm, you know, kind of riding a wave of depression and I can say, Oh, look, okay, I was going through it at this time, you know, this year. And these are the things that, kind of helped me work through it.

[00:21:10] Jennifer Wilson: You know what, I was thinking about this in a kind of a different context recently, but the older I get, the more that I've noticed kind of subtleties and small wins. Like, yay, that's better than it was before. Like I was able to make this decision that was better than the last decision I make. Nothing, it doesn't mean that things are perfect or don't, you know, I don't have bad days or don't go wrong, but, um, you can see and feel that growth.

[00:21:37] Stephanie Daubek: A hundred percent. And I think that, for me, I remember reading a quote shortly after my mom passed away of, that doesn't get easier, you just get stronger. And I think that I feel like that's similar in terms of some of our mental health muscles. We've kind of built those muscles up over experiences, over time. And it's so encouraging to see those little wins. Cause I mean, they're big wins too sometimes. Where you're like, Oh, look, I got through that. It was so much easier than the first time.

[00:22:03] Jennifer Wilson: Yes, yes, yes. So Stephanie, I've appreciated so much how often you have shared our podcast episodes and included the show on your top list of the year. Um, I'm curious, what do you like about Scrapbook Your Way?

[00:22:16] Stephanie Daubek: Oh my gosh. I feel, I feel like I, I was so excited. I fangirled my way into an episode, which I never thought even was possible. But, um, I just, I'm just feel so honored to be here, cause I just love. I love your show for a myriad of reasons. And mostly because it gives so many different perspectives on crafting.

[00:22:37] Stephanie Daubek: I mean, there's really not one way that works for every single person. So getting to hear so many different ideas. Um, when I was growing up, I don't know if you used to watch like VH1's Behind the Music or.

[00:22:51] Jennifer Wilson: Oh yeah.

[00:22:52] Stephanie Daubek: Inside the Actors Studio, where you hear everybody's backstory and kind of their, you know, again, to quote, to quote Ali, our reason why. Um, because we all do get into it for different reasons.

[00:23:02] Stephanie Daubek: And, um, but also I feel like there's a lot of common threads. Um, you know, for us, it, it's a way to, you know, creatively express ourselves. It's a good, you know, like mental health, um, tool in a lot of ways. It's, uh, it's a way to grow and to learn and, you know, we try new techniques or we experiment with different things and figure out, you know, just more about ourselves in terms of, you know, writing our story down. And, and then, you know, preserving a legacy obviously is, is a big part of it as well. Um, but I just love that you, you have so many different people, so many different guests from all over the world. And they tell, you know, how crafting plays such a important part in their life. And I think that that's, you know, the one thing that we all are really, obviously really passionate about is that we could, I could, you know, talk about crafting all day long. But, um, so yeah, that's the one, one big thing that really resonated with me.

[00:24:01] Jennifer Wilson: Awe, thank you. I appreciate it. And I'm so yeah, I'm so glad to, to have you on the show. So stepping back a little more broadly, because I noticed that you've gone to like in person events and met up with other people that I'm assuming that you've met through Instagram and the scrapbooking Instagram world.

[00:24:19] Jennifer Wilson: How has connecting both directly and indirectly with online creators added depth or meaning to your hobby?

[00:24:27] Stephanie Daubek: You know, I, I feel like sometimes I missed the, the boat in terms of, you know, those crops and things that happened in the early 2000s. Because I, I didn't, I don't know how, I didn't know that scrapbooking was a thing or those things kind of existed until I was in my early 30s. So kind of having that, that sense of community in terms of meeting people on online, that, um, it really adds like a richness and a depth to creating. Just because I'm so much more excited to share it. Because I think that's, you know, we all kind of inspire each other and cheer each other on. And, it's such a, sounds so cheesy, but it's such a positive, like, lovely community of people that are just, you know, hopefully we're all cheering each other on. We're not hopefully comparing anybody, but, you know, just like, oh my gosh, that's so awesome. And, you know, you inspire me to do this. Um, so for me, and over the past, couple of years, um, I attended like my first ever retreat. And, uh, and that just kind of brought a whole other sense of, because crafting in person is just something you can't duplicate. So yeah, it's, it was really magical, but I do appreciate being able to Zoom now and just do that very frequently. Because it's nice to be where all of your supplies are.

[00:25:46] Jennifer Wilson: Yes, that is true as well. Yeah. Cause then you have to, don't you have to think about what do I need to pack? And, Oh, I forgot that. Or I ran out of adhesive or.

[00:25:54] Stephanie Daubek: Right? And I'm such a chronic over packer, so I, you know, and then a lot of times I'm like, I don't even need half of this stuff. But it's just, it's really fun. Both things are very, very fun.

[00:26:03] Jennifer Wilson: Yes, yes. So I think this question here at the, at the end, because I noticed that you, um, are bringing in different fun things from different places. So if you had to pick like top five, your top five shops to acquire new crafty things, and we can't just say Etsy is because there's so many Etsy things. What would those be?

[00:26:24] Stephanie Daubek: Oh, this is such a difficult question, but it's such a good question. I definitely, uh, I do, you know, I think part of that is part of the fun of crafting is acquiring new supplies. So, um, I would say, scrapbook. com is a big one for me in terms of just having a huge assortment of, of products and different brands.

[00:26:50] Stephanie Daubek: But in terms of, you know, shopping smaller and shopping, um, you know, more, I guess, local. There's a stationery store in Chicago that I absolutely adore. It's in the Andersonville neighborhood. It's called Paper and Pencil. And while they don't sell specifically, you know, scrapbooking products, they sell a lot of, they sell stationery.

[00:27:10] Stephanie Daubek: So, lots of pens and lots of adhesives and stamps and just really cute, really fun things. They're probably my favorite, favorite small shop to support. Um, and.

[00:27:21] Jennifer Wilson: Am so excited to go there. I have not been there yet.

[00:27:24] Stephanie Daubek: Oh really? Oh, awesome. It's

[00:27:26] Jennifer Wilson: But I had like, I had heard of Tyler from like the business world.

[00:27:30] Stephanie Daubek: Uh huh.

[00:27:30] Jennifer Wilson: Um, and then I saw he was opening the shop and I'm like, Oh, this is so exciting. And then also like Andersonville is such a cute neighborhood.

[00:27:38] Jennifer Wilson: Um, It is also, like, the Swedish area of Chicago. So I have actually been there several times before, because I can point to, like, specific houses where my ancestors lived.

[00:27:50] Stephanie Daubek: That's so cool.

[00:27:52] Jennifer Wilson: So yeah, I'm excited to, to get back there. And, and go to that shop. So sorry to interrupt, but I've.

[00:27:57] Stephanie Daubek: No, that's okay.

[00:27:58] Jennifer Wilson: On my list.

[00:27:59] Stephanie Daubek: Tyler is, yeah, Tyler and Eric are just, just two of my favorite humans ever. They're just, they're so warm and welcoming. And it's just this little gem of a store where, you know, it's, I think he said 400 square feet, so it's pretty small.

[00:28:15] Jennifer Wilson: Mm.

[00:28:15] Stephanie Daubek: It is like, It's like a treasure chest or something. Where you're like, everywhere you look, you're like, whoa, there's more stuff.

[00:28:22] Stephanie Daubek: Wow, there's more stuff. Um, so yeah, there's just, they're full of cuteness. Um, okay, so that's only two.

[00:28:29] Stephanie Daubek: Where, uh, where else do I shop? Gosh, so, you know, it's hard to not say Etsy.

[00:28:36] Jennifer Wilson: Well, are there any particular like, um, you know, shop owners on Etsy where you're like buying the stickers or, or various things?

[00:28:45] Stephanie Daubek: Um

[00:28:46] Jennifer Wilson: Your repeat purchases?

[00:28:47] Stephanie Daubek: Repeat purchases. I recently discovered a little sticker shop. Her name is AOI. So Aoi Little Studio. Her stickers are adorable and they're all hand drawn. And I love A Cherry On Top. That's another really good one with lots of, uh, you know, good scrapbooking supplies. And, uh, Paper Source is another one that I just love to go to again and again for all kinds of cute stickers and stationery.

[00:29:16] Jennifer Wilson: Yes, yes, yes. It's so like, I think we're, even the digital scrapbookers out there, I'm imagining enjoy going into stationery shops and looking at all the fun things. And be inspired by color and picking up stickers for your water bottle or your laptop. And, um, yeah, it's just, I'm glad that these places exist in the world.

[00:29:37] Stephanie Daubek: I know. And it's such a, it's such a you know, I think I don't really shop nearly as much in person anymore as I do, as I did pre pandemic. So, um, a lot of times it's just, it's really convenient, especially where, you know, just locally of being like, Oh, I need to do grocery shopping when I do pickup. But sometimes there are some places where like Paper And Pencil or Paper Source, where you just step in and it's just like an immediate, I want to say like a vibe or a mood. You know, you're just like, Ooh, this is very pleasant. Um, where it's just, yeah, it feels, it feels so, so fun and just what shopping should be.

[00:30:17] Jennifer Wilson: Yes, yes, yes. Stephanie, this has been such a nice conversation. I'm excited to finally meet you in person. Well, in pseudo person on the podcast. I'm like, yeah, I'm just excited to really connect with you. And, uh, now that I know you better, I'm, we'll continue to do so on Instagram.

[00:30:36] Stephanie Daubek: Awesome. Thank you so much for having me. And yeah, hopefully someday we can meet in person because we're not that far away from each other.

[00:30:41] Jennifer Wilson: Yes, yes. I want to gather folks here in the Midwest. I think that would be really fun.

[00:30:45] Stephanie Daubek: Please do. I'll be there.

[00:30:47] Stephanie Daubek: I'm just going to invite myself.

[00:30:49] Jennifer Wilson: No, it's all great. Yes, please do. Yes. So can you share where we can find you online and anything you might be working on later this year?

[00:30:57] Stephanie Daubek: Um, so I just mostly I'm on Instagram. That's where I am 99 percent of the time. So I'm at stephaniemakesstuff on Instagram and I share lots of scrapbooking projects, lots of sticker fun things, and um, yeah, I'm really excited because I just recently got Um, asked to be a rep for Pineberry Paper. That's a sticker company, that's local. She's from Chicago, but she's living in Indianapolis now. And so I'm really have been so excited to play with her stickers. And then I recently got asked to be on another sticker team that I can't announce yet, but I'm excited to, to work with them as well. So yeah, lots of fun things coming up.

[00:31:38] Jennifer Wilson: Again. Thank you so much for spending time with me.

[00:31:41] Stephanie Daubek: Thank you so much for having me. This is just so fun.

[00:31:44] Jennifer Wilson: And to all of our listeners, please remember that you have permission to scrapbook your way.​