SYW269 – My Way with Gloria Parra

[00:00:16] Jennifer Wilson: Welcome to Scrapbook Your Way, the show that explores the breadth of ways to be a memory keeper today. I’m your host, Jennifer Wilson, owner of Simple Scrapper and author of The New Rules of Scrapbooking. This is episode 269.

In this episode I'm interviewing Gloria Parra for the My Way series. My Way is all about celebrating the unique ways memory keepers get things done. We're excited to have Gloria as the July featured artist at Simple Scrapper.

[00:00:49] Jennifer Wilson: Hey, Gloria. Welcome to Scrapbook Your Way.

[00:00:52] Gloria Parra: Hi Jennifer. Thank you so much for having me This is a dream come true for me.

[00:00:57] Jennifer Wilson: Oh, thank you. It's such a wonderful thing to hear. I am looking forward to getting to know you better. Can you start by sharing a little bit about yourself with our audience?

[00:01:07] Gloria Parra: Yes, of course. My name is Gloria Parra I'm actually from Bolivia, South America. I am a mom to two little girls. One is five and my older one is eight. I am married to my husband Eduardo for 13 years now. And I actually own an arts and crafts store down here, and it's very scrapbook oriented, and I've had it for 11 years now. So yeah.

[00:01:36] Jennifer Wilson: Oh, that is so wonderful.

[00:01:38] Gloria Parra: Yes!

[00:01:39] Jennifer Wilson: Yes.

[00:01:41] Gloria Parra: It's been a long.

[00:01:41] Jennifer Wilson: We able to link to the store online?

[00:01:44] Gloria Parra: Yes. Yes, you can find it's called Nube de Papel, which means paper cloud in English. And yes, we have social media and we share lots of things. It's evolved from scrapbooking to other arts and crafts. But, my main passion is scrapbooking, so, so yes, it's still there.

[00:02:05] Jennifer Wilson: That's that's so wonderful.

[00:02:07] Gloria Parra: Thanks.

[00:02:08] Jennifer Wilson: So I love to ask our guests what is exciting them right now. So can you share one thing inside of your scrappy creative life and then one thing in your everyday life?

[00:02:18] Gloria Parra: Yes, scrapbooking related, I'm super excited for the new community that we've created with two scrappy friends. It's called Scrap and Learn. And I've created this, we've created it with Andrea Lake and Celes Gonzalo. And it's just an amazing place. We will start giving workshops, online workshops, and I'm really excited for that.

[00:02:45] Jennifer Wilson: Yes. I, I. I noticed that too. It's such a, a fun thing to see new collaborations. Um, yeah, it's, it's exciting to see our industry thrive.

[00:02:58] Gloria Parra: Yes, we have a virtual camp this August 31st, so yeah, it's, it's really exciting. And also something that has me like very passionate, is I just started a couple months ago my YouTube channel. And you know, I'm really enjoying creating and teaching through that, through that media. So yeah, it's something that has me excited, something new. I was really scared to do it, but I finally did it and I'm having a blast creating videos. So that's scrapbook related.

[00:03:35] Jennifer Wilson: Yeah, that makes a huge difference when you really enjoy the process.

[00:03:39] Gloria Parra: Yes, and non scrapbook related, well, my, we have our summer trip to Florida this Monday. We're leaving for Florida. And I'm excited to spend the 4th of July there, my girls love it, we have family, cousins over there. So, yeah, we spend the 4th of July over there. And we're going to Disney in Orlando, So that has me super excited.

[00:04:05] Jennifer Wilson: You know, I never thought of it that way that, you know, so many, folks here in the U. S. definitely travel to Florida for vacation. And I never thought about people from around the world choosing that as their destination as well. You said you have family there too?

[00:04:19] Gloria Parra: Yes, we do. We do. My, my husband, my girls were born there and my husband as well. So it's a very special place for us. Yes.

[00:04:29] Jennifer Wilson: I'm curious where you and your husband met. Did you meet in Florida or in Bolivia?

[00:04:33] Gloria Parra: In Bolivia, in Bolivia. His parents are Bolivian. So he used to come here a lot, but when he met, when we met, he decided to come and live here. So I brought him here and it's been, yay, it's been 13 years. So we get the best of both worlds. We go a lot to the States and we enjoy everything over there. But we, but we are with my family here and his family as well. So yeah, it's really nice.

[00:05:02] Jennifer Wilson: Lovely. So, of course, I also like to ask our guests about the storytelling side of their hobby. Uh, we like to call this our memory keeping bucket list. It's one or more stories that feel important to tell, but for some reason you haven't done it yet. So, is there a story on your bucket list?

[00:05:18] Gloria Parra: Yes, there's, there's an album actually. I've been a Simple Scrapper member. I was a Simple Scrapper member for a very long time. I love your community, your membership. And an album that I am that I really want to work, work in the future is the Before Your Story album. I've told so many stories about my girls and I love telling all the milestones and the fun things we do. But there's so much that I still want to tell about me, about, my childhood, about, I don't know, my parents divorce, my mom's depression, and all those things that make you who you are, you know. That have molded me into the person I am right now. So yeah, those are a little harder stories, but I think they're so important, you know?

[00:06:07] Gloria Parra: But those are not some stories that I think I would share in social media. So or since I'm in a couple design teams. They're not like the best stories to to show off product, you know what I mean? But it's those are stories that are there and they always bubble up and hopefully one day I'll get to the to that album. Because I have a couple layouts there that I worked while I was in the membership. And I'm sure I'll be back and I'll be creating more stories in that album.

[00:06:42] Jennifer Wilson: Yeah. That's something that I love about that project is it allows you to touch on these significant points and choose how much detail that you're going to go into. Whether you're going to put it in a pocket or it deserves a whole layout. Um, you can really, as you said, capture who you are and what has made you, you. In a holistic way without having to do a full layout about every single thing that was important.

[00:07:08] Gloria Parra: Yes. Yes. It's a beautiful album. I remember your your class about it and I got so excited. I have all my notes all the stories I want to tell. Like it's there ready to ready to be made. I just need the time to do it

[00:07:24] Jennifer Wilson: Sure. Well, as our featured artist for July, you'll be invited back into the membership. And this is one of our My Way episodes. Um, where we get to learn about even more about what makes you tick as a memory keeper. Right now we're in our Photos, creative journey for July and August. And so before we get into a little bit more about you, I'm curious, do you have anything that's been really successful for you in developing habits around photography or photo management. This is something that's kind of like the foundation, the, the platform of our hobby. And if we can get this dialed in, we can, you know, the rest of scrapbooking is a little bit easier.

[00:08:06] Gloria Parra: Yes, yes, I totally agree. Having a workflow for your photos is very important when you're ready to create. And what has worked for me is hearting those like giving it a heart to your favorite photos. Regularly delete those screenshots, those duplicates. It's become part of my process. Like every night I look at my phone and erase all the things that are just keeping up space.

[00:08:33] Gloria Parra: So, I also love creating folders, like for seasons. Since I was in your membership, I was very oriented to work in, in seasons. So, I try to make folders for those and put my favorites there. Like, I use my My iPhone photo application a lot, so it works for me. And another thing that I learned from Jana Eubank was the idea of using a notebook to keep like a yearly record of a photo.

[00:09:06] Gloria Parra: So I just, when the year is finished, I go ahead and put January and put the best, like the important photos, the important memories. And I put the date. Because sometimes you remember that moment. But you can't find the photo, right? So I have my little notebook where I go and look, let's say Easter, , and, there I can find the photo and the date for that photo. So that is what's work, what has been working for me and my photos management.

[00:09:34] Jennifer Wilson: I love that concept. And I think that can even help you when you know a memory is maybe in between those milestones. Like I know it was like just after Easter that year when so and so broke their leg or whatever. Um, if you even have some of those dates down, you can better find some of the other stories that you're looking for. So yeah, such a great strategy.

[00:09:57] Gloria Parra: It's, it's been an amazing solution. Like, I use it a lot regularly. I open my little notebook and find those ,like you say, those in between moments that are not that clear. Like, so yeah, it's been, it's been great. My albums, my photo albums on my phone, and, and the notebook, those would be like the two big tips.

[00:10:18] Jennifer Wilson: Yes, yes, yes. So can you tell us more about how you got started scrapbooking and how your hobby has evolved? And I'd especially like to know this in context of, of owning your store and how that has connected, uh, you to the hobby and all of that.

[00:10:36] Gloria Parra: Yeah, I was a creative child, since I can remember. I used to sell embroidered, like, towels with names. I used to go to every fair that, the town fair for Christmas, and sell, I, I would make, Christmas cards and sell them. So I was a very creative child and well, around 2006, 2007, I went to a vacation in Hawaii. And I entered a Michael's store to get some flosses and some embroidery things and discovered the scrapbooking aisle for the first time. And it was heaven. And there was no turning back. Like I got a couple of paper packs and stickers, all Hawaiian themed. And I created, I came back home and created that first vacation album and I was hooked. I remember I got those gorgeous magazines, the, I think it was Scrapbook Etc, Creating Keepsakes. And then I discovered Two Peas in a Bucket and Studio Calico.

[00:11:43] Gloria Parra: I started, it was all like a, a snowball. I started subscribing to some kit clubs and that's how it started. Soon I had practically a store at home.

[00:11:54] Jennifer Wilson: Oh, I bet, I bet.

[00:11:55] Gloria Parra: Yeah, I actually studied psychology. But deep in my heart I wanted to do something with all this creativity I had. I love my career. I love it. I've, I apply it daily. But, and, but really the creative side, won. When I met my husband, he saw me like doing many party things.

[00:12:21] Gloria Parra: Cause here in Bolivia, we celebrate big time. You know, we go overboard with birthdays, with baby showers. So I used to make from the invitation, the souvenirs, everything. And my husband saw me, like, making and staying up really late to finish all these orders. And he told me, why don't you bring all these tools so people can make it? My tools were my biggest, like, secret, you know? My Cricut, My Big Shot, my, they were the, the things were, which I created, right? So, um, he told me, he's an entrepreneur, he studied in New York, so he was like, opening my mind a little. That I should bring all these things for people to start creating their little businesses. Cause, I was staying up too late and, and I, like, he helped me put my store up. He helped me contact all the sellers, American Crafts, Silhouette, all the big brands. And actually he was the, my biggest cheerleader and help all these years. So that's how, how this started.

[00:13:31] Jennifer Wilson: So what sizes or formats do you typically create in today and has that kind of evolved since you started scrapbooking?

[00:13:38] Gloria Parra: Yeah, I've scrapped 12 by 12 all this time. And that's where my heart is, that's the size where I feel comfortable. My head goes to, it's, I don't know, it's just so easy to create on that format. But I'm lately getting into cards and mini albums. My friend Andrea Lake has opened a new A new world with the mini albums. Yes, and she's pushing me to try them cause I was a little scared of them. Cause 12x12 feels like so natural to me, right? But yeah.

[00:14:14] Jennifer Wilson: Yes. A hundred percent.

[00:14:16] Gloria Parra: So, owning a store and creating can sometimes be like hard, you know? Cause I'm all day thinking of scrapbooking. I'm thinking of, you know, of the things that I have to bring, restock. But for me, scrapbooking has been a therapy. It's been the way that I stay sane, that I manage anxiety. So it's been amazing. It's just, a really good way to calm down for me.

[00:14:47] Jennifer Wilson: Yes. I mean, I totally understand that because I've, you know, recording a lot of these episodes on Friday mornings this summer, just cause that works with our schedule. And I get so excited to scrapbook, but then I have to go do like my weekly bookkeeping afterwards, which is less exciting than scrapbooking.

[00:15:03] Gloria Parra: Yes, totally. So there's the fun part where we get to create and, and, play with all this fun product and then there's the, the not so fun part. That's the paperwork and the ordering and the restocking and, oh, and paying the bills. But it's all part of it, right? It's, I'm really thankful to be able to work in something that I love and I'm passionate about for so many years. Because I started around 2005, 2006. So yeah, it's been a long time.

[00:15:37] Jennifer Wilson: So whose products are you completely obsessed with today? And I'm curious maybe who or what designers or brands have you been obsessed with for the longest?

[00:15:48] Gloria Parra: Yeah, I'm currently obsessed and in love with Simple Stories. I just love every collection they put out there. And it's uh, an honor to be part of their design team. And I, they opened a new world for me with this Simple Vintage Collections. I used to like run away from them. But I've, I've discovered this love for, for that aesthetic. And I also am in love with dies lately. Dies from I love the Pink Fresh ones, I love Spellbinders, Scrapbook. com. It's like a new love that I've discovered. And I'm also trying the Better Press and the Glimmer Hot Foil Machine, so I'm, I'm trying to, like, to incorporate new things in my scrapbooking to make it feel fresh and, and new, right? To keep it fresh.

[00:16:44] Jennifer Wilson: Yes. I'm curious when you are like working with a group of products and you want to select a die to create an embellishment or part of your layout, what do you tend to be thinking about? Because I've been collecting dies. And I use them a little bit in my, like, mini books, more like December Daily type things. But I don't have a, an easy process to incorporate things into my layouts.

[00:17:11] Gloria Parra: Yeah, some, I, I have them divided, like, I have a bunch of types of pockets, so I try to incorporate those to layouts. Or I try to, like, really, observe the collection and maybe see if, let's say they have florals and they want to bring new, new leaves to the florals. I go to my leaves dies, and look for something that, like, can bring all those florals to life. You know, I just try it, try to look for something that can add to that beautiful look, you know. But yeah, I've, I've also tried to bring my dies. I have them really near in a, in a Michael's rolling cart. They have this big rolling cart. And I've made like little, little files to divide all my all my dies by type. And I have them like at hand reach. So that's helped a lot too.

[00:18:09] Jennifer Wilson: Oh yes, I bet, because my, yeah, mine are not as easily at hand. They're like across my office, and then my manual die cut machine is, like, kind of put away. So if you want to use things, you need to have them easily accessible.

[00:18:25] Gloria Parra: Exactly. I also brought I got the switch machine that it's the electrical one. And I have it plugged in I have it my desk has like little cubbies at the sides, so I have it plugged in. I just have to bring it to my, put it up my table, and those die, and I put those dies in. So, all that has made using the dies, because I was collecting them too, I had them in some drawers all forgotten. And just collecting them and they are not cheap, right? They're expensive. So I decided to bring them out and that has helped a lot. So maybe you can try that.

[00:19:02] Jennifer Wilson: Especially when you're buying the like stamp and die sets are, those are not cheap at all.

[00:19:06] Gloria Parra: Yeah, no, no. I have a bunch of those too. And I'm starting to get my hands on my inks because I have an entire collection of inks as well. But I'm not a huge stamper, but I it's something that I want to start incorporating in my layouts.

[00:19:23] Jennifer Wilson: Yes. Yes. I think as, as crafters, not even just scrapbookers, we like to definitely collect the colors of things and, uh, and be surrounded by that. Yeah.

[00:19:35] Gloria Parra: Oh, yes, I have like four different brands. I'm looking at them all beautifully organized. At least they they make a beautiful wall. But I promise start using them.

[00:19:48] Jennifer Wilson: Okay, okay, I will follow up with you to see if, uh, by the end of the year you've done a few more things with them.

[00:19:55] Gloria Parra: That's perfect.

[00:19:57] Jennifer Wilson: So, Gloria, is there something that you'd use or do on most of your pages? Like a signature type of, uh, embellishment, a product you're always reaching for, or a technique?

[00:20:09] Gloria Parra: Okay, I am a more is more girl. I love layering. I love my layers. So I use lots of foam adhesive. I'm really obsessed with the different sizes that scrapbook. com carries now. So they have the 1mm, the 2mm, and the 3mm. And I love creating layers. I love, my pages are so bulky and I love those. I love, I have a little place where I like exhibit my layouts on my room, on my scrap room. And of course I put them in albums later. But I love those, those chunky layouts. Layering them, layering my layouts up.

[00:20:50] Jennifer Wilson: Yes, yes. Now, in terms of your everyday life, you mentioned that you have kids. When do you typically find the time and energy for scrapbooking? I mean, not even just kids and family, but also, you know, uh, having your own business as well.

[00:21:06] Gloria Parra: Yeah, I sleep little. I know that's not good. But, you know, thankfully I function well enough with five or six hours of sleep. So I'm an early riser I wake up at 5 a. m. And usually have an hour and a half to of silence. Until 630 that I got to prepare lunches and wake the girls up for school. And then when my husband is not, he works a lot and he travels a lot for work.

[00:21:36] Gloria Parra: I usually film at night when the girls are asleep. So I sleep them and at nine I start filming for YouTube and I'm usually until 11 or 12 p. m. So yeah, I sleep a little.

[00:21:53] Jennifer Wilson: Yes, but you know, I'm, I think, uh, having that much energy to just even get through the day and, and motivation is, is very impressive. Are there any strategies that you use to stay motivated? Because it sounds like you are, uh, lifelong, so passionate about your creativity. There must be other things you're doing in your life that allow you to, to function from from 5am to 11pm.

[00:22:20] Gloria Parra: Yeah, lots of coffee. Lots of coffee, Jennifer. But look, I really enjoy taking classes. I'm passionate about classes. I love the Crop and Create. I love the new one they have with Meghann Andrew. I always learn something from those amazing teachers that I followed and admired for so long. So, yeah, taking classes, it's one of the main things that I do to stay inspired. I also love whenever I'm creating, I need to disconnect myself or I'm, I'm feeling overwhelmed. So I go for a walk. I think it's very important to connect with nature. So I get, I take my dog out for a long walk and feel energized later. I also love looking at graphic designs for, like, new inspiration when I feel stuck doing the same things, and I think that's it. Coffee! A good candle, and.

[00:23:23] Jennifer Wilson: I, yeah, I love it. Yeah. I mean, caffeine definitely is a, uh, strong requirement for many of us.

[00:23:31] Gloria Parra: Yes. Yes.

[00:23:33] Jennifer Wilson: So we've talked a lot about the things that you enjoy. You are a diehard 12 by 12. You use all the layers. Is there something in scrapbooking that you've tried and decided it's absolutely not for you?

[00:23:47] Gloria Parra: Yeah. I think that would be pocket scrapbooking. I can do it. I enjoy it for a while, but it's. It's not something that, that lets that creative side of me like, like go wild. I feel too limited in the spaces and I don't enjoy it that much. So yeah, it's something that I, I don't do very regularly.

[00:24:11] Jennifer Wilson: Yeah, there's, I mean, there is some, uh, how do I say this? Your, uh, love of layers makes it hard to fit those layers in those individual pockets, where sometimes those pockets don't even fit the single card. You have to trim them to fit. Um, but you know, I love that you so much feel that comfort zone with your own style.

[00:24:34] Gloria Parra: Yes. Yes. I've tried it a couple times and occasionally I will put like a divided page protector beside a 12 by 12 when I have many photos. And I think that's a very like fun thing to do, but I wouldn't scrapbook only that way, you know, cause I feel restrained with the sizes and just with my creativity.

[00:24:56] Jennifer Wilson: Sure, sure.

[00:24:58] Gloria Parra: Yes.

[00:24:59] Jennifer Wilson: So let's shift gears to organizing a little bit. Are you a very organized person or a not so organized person?

[00:25:07] Gloria Parra: Oh yeah. Um, I'm I would consider myself an organized person. Yeah, I couldn't function with my room all like all chaos, you know. So I love having my collections in those two Scrapbook. com plastic 13 by 13 sleeves. I have all my collections like that. I, I try to keep my space as organized as possible. And whenever I finish a project, I try to clean up and start fresh. Cause I, I don't know. It just helps my creativity, I guess.

[00:25:43] Jennifer Wilson: Oh yes, for sure. Are there other like organizing tips or solutions you want to share about maybe beyond your supplies that work well for you?

[00:25:52] Gloria Parra: . I just love keeping my collections together. And I currently ordered this stackable paper trays from scrapbook. com. And love having my like my latest collections there ready to be used. And another thing that I really like is my We Are Makers project cart. Like, I can put everything I'm ready to work with there. And, I don't know, all those little things help, help with the workflow. I also love this stackables sort trees for my embellishments. I love taking all my embellishments out and putting like what I think would work for that layout. in a little tray. Putting florals in the other. So yeah, and keeping everything that you really want to use at hand. No, like I, I was really trying to push myself to use this dies and bringing them closer and looking at them, like looking and knowing what you have, I think is very important.

[00:26:56] Jennifer Wilson: Yes, the more you're , familiar you are with your supplies, the more likely your brain will trigger you to make that connection to the story or the supplies that you're using.

[00:27:05] Gloria Parra: Yes, yes, exactly.

[00:27:07] Jennifer Wilson: Now I'm curious, when you are not creating something for a design team where you have specific products to use, do you tend to choose to work from a collection of coordinated supplies.

[00:27:21] Gloria Parra: Yes, I think I, I feel more comfortable work, working with an entire collection. And maybe adding some small things like dies or, or bringing in some sequins. Like the other, the other supplies, you know, that are, that can bring something new and different to my layout. But yes, I think it makes the work so much easier, right?

[00:27:45] Gloria Parra: Like working with your collection. And I've tried to, to, like, destash all of the things that I had. I had so much, like, from one collection, very old collection that I had left. So I tried to give that to my, to my girls so they can play. And I keep my collections together and work with that.

[00:28:07] Jennifer Wilson: Nice. Nice. I love how you have a, a, system to make sure that those older supplies get a better life or another, a second life.

[00:28:16] Gloria Parra: Yes, and there's, there's a lot. They're so happy using those things. They, they never are afraid of using an entire pack of stickers, right? They just go to town with all the pack of sticker. And yeah, they, they love scrapbooking as well. They already have their albums and they always ask for photos. So I love, I love seeing them being passionate about that as well.

[00:28:41] Jennifer Wilson: That's, that's wonderful.

[00:28:43] Gloria Parra: Yeah.

[00:28:43] Jennifer Wilson: So these last two questions are a little bit more big picture. Um, where would you like your scrapbooking to be in 10 years?

[00:28:51] Gloria Parra: Okay. So we're currently building our forever home. And I'm building my dream craft room there. And, well, I see myself, like, I would love to do online classes. I would love to film more, so I will have this space dedicated to filming. And it's, it's a dream of mine. So, I still, I see myself maybe with a Patreon account, and the Scrap Learn community growing. And like, my scraproom filled with colorful albums that my girls can access them. And of course, I hope the store is still, is still alive. And I can still, yeah. So yeah, that's how I see my scrapbooking. And I see myself with more mini albums, with, like, taking my scrapbooking a little, like, dwelving in other things, but I know that 12x12 is my passion, so. I can see my 12x12 albums, a bunch of them being displayed.

[00:29:56] Jennifer Wilson: Well, that's so exciting to not only be building your forever home, but your dream craft room. So I, I'm sure our, uh, our listeners will be excited to follow that process as, as you share it in your, on your channels.

[00:30:09] Gloria Parra: Yes, yes, I'm super excited as well.

[00:30:12] Jennifer Wilson: So what has being a scrapbooker taught you?

[00:30:15] Gloria Parra: I think it has taught me to savor the moments, cause life goes on too quickly. And you forget about so many small details. I love reading the little things my girls used to say. I love seeing how much they've grown. So it is really important for me to document those things that we would usually forget. So, yeah, it's taught me to savor the moments.

[00:30:43] Jennifer Wilson: Oh, I bet. Yes, I definitely feel that. And you even mentioned before, it's also kind of been your, your therapy, I think. So many of us, we get so many different things from scrapbooking, which is why we keep coming back to it. Cause we don't always need the same things, but. But it's something that can give us that connection to the past, present, and future. The connection to ourselves, the, the noticing of everyday life. And yeah, our hobby is amazing.

[00:31:12] Gloria Parra: I feel that scrapbooking has kept my little creative girl alive. In a way , it lets me be that playful girl. With my, with all my supplies. You know, it's just such a relaxing moment and I just love this. I just love this hobby.

[00:31:30] Jennifer Wilson: Gloria, it's been wonderful to share your passion this morning as we chatted for your episode. Can you share where we find you online and anything you have new or coming up in the second half of 2024?

[00:31:44] Gloria Parra: Yes, they can find me at Gloria Scraps on Instagram and on YouTube. So I have like 40 videos now. And I'm I'm about to celebrate reaching a thousand subscribers. So I'm really excited for that. Even though my little girl says like, no mom, you should, you should celebrate when you reach a million.

[00:32:08] Jennifer Wilson: Yeah.

[00:32:10] Gloria Parra: She doesn't see a thousand, like a big milestone. But well, I'm really excited.

[00:32:15] Jennifer Wilson: No, my daughter doesn't either.

[00:32:17] Gloria Parra: Yeah, of course. But well, I'm excited and I'm about to do like a, a favorites layout shares. To celebrate the a thousand, reaching a thousand subscribers. And well you can find me at Scrap and Learn on YouTube and on Instagram as well. And I would love for people to check out the community, the classes, we will have um, a workshop, a virtual retreat this August 31st and September 1st. Where you can find By the kit or the access only. So I'm super excited for that.

[00:32:53] Jennifer Wilson: Wonderful. You have, I think, I can tell you have so much on the horizon and I'm so excited for you.

[00:33:00] Gloria Parra: Thank you so much Jennifer. Thank you Thank you for having me. It's been such an honor. I've loved your community and Simple Scrapper for so long. I've been following you from the beginning. So it's an honor to be here.

[00:33:15] Jennifer Wilson: Oh, thank you. Thank you so much. Yes. I'm, I am glad we know each other better now and become better friends as colleagues in the industry.

[00:33:24] Gloria Parra: Yes, it's been a pleasure.

[00:33:25] Jennifer Wilson: And to all of our listeners, please remember that you have permission to scrapbook your way.